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(GRAPHIC) Video: Coyotes Take Down Deer on Trail Cam

by PH Online Editors   |  October 10th, 2012 34

For a state that declared open war on coyotes and wild hogs in April 2012, there’s now even clearer evidence why they did.

A video taken by a trail camera from South Carolina surfaced this week that shows just why the government got involved to put an end to the coyote nuisance—two coyotes are seen taking down an apparently healthy six-point whitetail.

With an explosion of coyotes and wild hogs in South Carolina in recent years, the House of Representatives passed a bill declaring open war on dogs and hogs, even allowing night shooting to help cut down on numbers. According to Rep. Mike Pitts, it’s not so much about the hunting tradition as protecting the state’s resources.

““We’re not talking about hunting. We need to take these animals out any way we can,” Pitts told The State.

  • Raazorblade

    We are having the same problem with wolves here in the NorthWest. Especially Montana and Idaho. They are wiping out the game herds, especially elk, moose, and deer. But you can't tell the animal lovers that. They always have an excuse that it is the hunters or something else. The elk herd in Yellowstone park went from 14,500 before the wolves were brought back to about 4,500 now….

    • William

      Mr.Raazorblade,It's called population control…this year it's 14,500 next year its 15,000 then 15,500,16.000,16.500,17.000,17.500 & on & on & on…Why r u crying about how the herd has gone down? U,Me & any other hunter can never hunt Yellow Stone….Sooo if U cant hunt & I cant hunt & u take all the big bad wolves out how do u have population control? I know..Lets watch Videos on how thousands of Elk,mule deer,black tails & so on die of starvation each winter….2 sides to every coin..Keep a open mind pls.

      • shootbrownelk

        William, I think Raazor is talking about the herd that winters on the National Elk Refuge in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Those numbers are correct I believe. And while it's true that you CAN'T hunt in Yellowstone Park, You CAN hunt in the adjoining Grand Teton Park. For Elk only! They've had this herd reduction hunt for years, before the "Wolf Reintroduction" . They used to give out around 2,500 permits in the park.
        Now its down to well under 100. That herd migrates from Yellowstone through Grand Teton to get to the refuge for the winter. I used to love hunting the park, and did so for 20 years, no more though as all I saw were Wolf & Grizzly tracks. Do some research William.

  • Mike

    Anytime the government gets into anything, politics get into it, and we the people get overlooked. They only try to strengthen their party and to heck with the people. Both sides are bad…Time to clean house,and start over.

  • Ed Rudder

    Years ago I witnessed a coyote stalking some sheep after hearing that coyotes only eat rodents etc on the news.

  • Rich Kiper

    Coyotes and eastern Cougar are a problem. In Pennsylvania, the game comission has stocked both to control the deer population because of the auto insurance lobby. This I am sure includes payoffs to government officals. Now the state has coyotes in urban areas to the point we are almost overrun. The eastern lions have been caught on trail cams and are seen almost every hunting season. The PGC denies both the activities of the PGC and the existance of the lions in PA.

  • George

    The South Carolina DNR Agent is badly mistaken to tell anyone that coyotes pose no threat to people. In the past eight years here in New Jersey there have been three verified attacks on children in suburban areas and they are being seen statewide in both urban as well as suburban areas.

  • ron

    Wolves and coyotes have no place in the woods. Tree huggers want them, keep em at your house.

    • William

      Ron…You have got to be child, "wolves & coyotes have no place in the woods?" for real?? U would rather kill all coyote & wolves so u can hunt….Quote on Quote "more big game for me." Its ppl like u I fear most."shame on U" like the small minded child u r.

      • ron

        Yep!

        • William

          I see from from your child like comment of "Yep!" I am to guess that u would like to see all wolves & coyotes killed off…The comment I made still holds true "It's ppl like I fear most"…have u ever picked up a book or seen a video of a man with the name Hitler? He had something like u in common..he to wanted to kill off a species for his own gain.I fear you because anyone with the mindset like u who would kill off a species so he could quote on quote "More big game for me" is a threat to me,hunters & everyone else out there.I fear you & I'm very sad for u.You truly have no clue on life & you have no clue how to be a hunter….FYI,Do I believe in predator control? Yep! 100% ….but to kill all off..that's going to far.

          • Chris

            You can never kill all the yotes out there, we do need some to try thou.

          • Mnsh

            Hitler was an avid animal rights activist,and vegetarian.He only liked killing people.

  • Cheepdog

    Wow im very surprise .. how easy they take him down..

  • Zack

    It's all a cirlce of life. Not that I'm a fan of yoties or wolves but they are intended to balance things out. I know here in KS it's harder and harder to find places to hunt because of big outfitters and the almighty $ they bring to our state. So, of course when deer numbers rise then do the dog numbers.
    Since the goverment doesn't do the bounty system anymore for coyotes people stop hunting them (except for me). Just saying to the comment that they don't belong in the woods, they belong there just as much as you and I!

    • ron

      You keep telling yourself that Zack. You go hunt the trash, more big game for me. Explain yourself when it comes to wolves balance things out, lots of people say that but can't explain it.

      • Gobbler421

        Hioni's Comment explains if very well I think. So I'm going to copy and paste it here.
        Look, if you kill off all the predators, the rodents will run wild, if you kill off all the Rodents, the Predators will take over. There needs to be a balance, one way or another. You can't just wipe out one or the other. I agree with William on that. It's common sense to keep up a balance. Hunting is a big part of my family, so I'm going to point out an actual event. In West Virginia a few years back or so, there was a problem with the deer not having enough food. Now before you say humans can feed them, feeders can only provide so much and are simply not enough. There was nothing to naturally thin out the groundhogs, squirrels, and other little critters so when there we had a bad season and there wasn't enough food to go around for them much less to support the deer as well. So the deer left. There were reports of deer being found dead from starvation. I'm not blaming the whole situation on the fact that we had no predators, to thin out the smaller critters, but it would have helped the situation I believe.
        Deer eat grass, nuts, berries and the like, so do groundhogs, opossum, squirrel, coon, and most other rodents and smaller creatures. If you have too many smaller animals, food for the deer becomes scarce. Coyotes do not hunt deer exclusively, they would take out a rabbit before they would a deer unless they were hungry enough to work in packs, though they usually only hunt in pairs and on occasion groups of three when they have a younger member with them. To see them taking down a deer is a relatively rare happening. The Coyotes usually kill off the smaller creatures, which gives the deer more food. Over population of deer can ruin a habitat just as any overpopulation of any creature, and they can become their own worst enemy in the process. Wolves eat the deer, which thins out the herd and keeps them from destroying themselves.
        The perfect scenario would balance out all of these, Rodents and small creatures, deer, coyotes, wolves and other predators.

        So there's your explanation Ron, I'm 100% positive they teach it in schools in the United States and have been for years.

        It's true, a little thinning out now and then is useful, but to wipe out an entire species is to destroy an ecosystem. It's exactly as Zack said, it's a circle of life. The Coyotes belong there as much as anything else does.

        • Wolfman

          You're right, that's it in a nutshell, you win. you must have not gone to school in the u.s with a explanation like that.

  • William

    WOW! just WOW!!! To read this BS some of u ppl spin about how coyotes,wolfs,hogs,Mt.lions & any other wild game u can come up with that kills another for food & how it effects u is really sad.First of of all,Killing game with a gun,knife,bow or even by the teeth of a coyotes,bear, cougar is still killing…before u think I'm a tree huger or peta lover u r sadly mistaken.I love to hunt Turkey,hog & deer & I hunt W.V,FL,NC,SC,TX & a few others.In all the states I hunt I always get my quota.I see more game killed by cars then I'm aloud aloud to shoot,man kills thousands of deer & other game every year..per state.Wild game kill other wild game every year,wild game die of old age,Its life & still after all that killing & deaths i just gave u some how we still have game year after year after year…hmmm.Have u forgotten that man about killed all the deer & turkey in the U.S? dont get me started on buffalo,& u got the balls to sit here & rip on a Coyote for trying to feed himself ..mind u,not for sport, & if u say ",I don't hunt for sport,I hunt for the food" well u & that coyote have something in common.It took man to control himself before he wiped out big game.Wild game has be killing each other since time begun & will keep killing even when man is gone.The only reason we see this more often is because of game cams & such,this coyote killing & other game killings is going on right now as I write this comment 24/7 365 days a year.Sooooo,with that said.I'll tell u the real problem here,its not the coyote or other game it's "YOU"…your mad that this coyote killed a 6pt this year & u have not.Get over yourself…let nature go on like it's intended.

    • Rich Kiper

      No William, you missed the point. Man's interference with nature caused this. Man re-introduced coyotes into these areas and now they are out of control. I hunt too and fill all my tags in three states. I see the roadkills and man's destruction of nature…Yes… but to bring predators into an area that had none before for political and monetary reasons, should make any good hunter angry. Mt. lions and coyotes were never around as little as ten years ago.

      • William

        Now Rich,u just hung yourself with your own comment.I quote on quote u with your own comment "Man's interference with nature caused this" "Man re-introduced coyotes into these areas and now they are out of control" That's the thing Rich,ppl like u & Ron wont learn to co exist with the wild.Man wont leave nature alone.U expect to go out & kill that trophy game all the time & hell fire if anything gets in your way of hunting, ummm that being coyote,wolves,cougars or what ever else that might upset u. The thing is Rich; coyotes were there first,man wiped out the coyotes & any other wild game he felt was in his way or that would effect "HIS" way of life.Man grew to accept a life with out a native wild game such as coyote,wolves, & any other wild game,& then & only then when man decides to fix "HIS" mistake & when "Man re-introduced" these wild game back,all hell breaks loose because some game cam caught 2 coyotes taking down a deer.Ask your self this..if coyotes,wolves cougar & so on were so bad for the environment,why before Man & I say man as in none native Americans,how come Native Americans could co exist together? Hell..the Native Americans call on the spirit of the wolf & coyotes,they even use them in religion,U see the wolf associated with the Native Americans.The Native Americans lived with them & now in this day & age we can't? I'll tell u why..man has land staved so much from wild game that it forces wild game into smaller areas,thus easy kills,more kills & more growth.The wolves in the north that were wiped out so "Man" could put up fences to keep his cows safe…then ranchers have the balls to say "they killin my cow"….well no crap..u put a fence up in a wild environment..I say "Put up a higher fence",but that will cut into there profit,soooo lets just kill all wolves, & one other thing, "MAN" has killed more game,more species,more reptiles then any other living thing including "Man" himself for his own gain & u have the nads to kill & wipe out wild game because hes trying to survive in a environment he was born in??? oh that's right because he might be killing a deer that was on your game came that U wanted to harvest this year…really? It's this type of thinking that really scares me & the comment of Ron above …so I end this by saying don't rip on the wild for surviving,learn to co exist.To be a real Hunter,u have to be open minded to all that nature has to offer,good or the bad.There is a saying & it go's like this "That's life" or u can say "That's Nature"…..FYI Mt.lions & coyotes have always been around,read up on your history.

        • Rich Kiper

          Again Not the point, These are predators that were taken out of the equation because they were dangerous (originally)(I do read history). In the wild, so what, not a problem, these animals are not just staying in the wild, they are back in urban and suburban areas due to no controls. Domestic animals and pets have been killed. A cougar was killed in fairmont park (philadelphia). Re-stocking these animals by the PGC was just wrong. Live and Let Live? Sorry. My friends and I shoot every coyote we see. As for lions, how many people are attacked and/or killed each year out west because the lions are coming back in greater numbers? again, sorry to your live and let live ideal. I'll shoot any lions I find in the woods.

    • ggg

      Willie, you are taking these people a little too seriously.
      Relax.

  • William

    Again Rich,your comment's hang u yet another time, "These are predators that were taken out of the equation because they were dangerous" really??? who here on earth gave u the right to wipe out a species because u deem them dangerous? I live here FL. I fish the keys + spear fish,I see bullheads & hammer heads…these r dangerous..do I go out of my way to wipe them out because I might get attacked? My favorite place to hunt in Fl are near swamp heads great hunting for deer,turkey & hogs.I see cotten mouths from time to time & gators to…some of my stands r on swamp islands,sometimes i walk knee deep & a few times waist deep…I don't go out of my way to kill gators & cotten mouths, & each year ppl die from these here Fl. Point is "U" and "I" choose to go out in these environment's if we get attacked that's the position we put ourselves in.U don't go out to wipe out a species because of it.As for urban areas (city) wild animals do come in & do sometimes cause harm, & it If is a nuisance animal that kills a human or harms a human by all means kill it,but not the whole species..Like i said before,ask yourself why r they coming? Smaller areas cause wild game to come closer to urban areas,Fl is a perfect example of over population growth of human habitats.Now..for the suburban ares…AKA (the country) this is a no brainier, if "U" put yourself & family in that environment to live for all that is holy please…please don't wig out because one of yall got bitten or killed.."U MOVED TO THE WILD" whats in the wild? "WILD ANIMALS" think about it.But nooooo,not u "My friends and I shoot every coyote we see" "I'll shoot any lions I find in the woods" I suggest u & your friends stay out of the woods,them 2 quotes show me your like Ron up above. U have this attitude that when u walk in the woods it's supposed to be some Free for all killing spree on anything that u deem dangerous to u & anyone or anything u may feel that might cause some sense of lost gain, all so u can kill them big ole trophy Buck.Once again I say,I see more wild animals & man killing man then I do seeing wild animals killing Man or pets.So u can drop the whole BS about wild game coming in urban & suburban areas hurting,killing,biting,scaring & getting to close to Buffy,spike or little pookie, & your comfort zone.Your pet defense really is silly,your going out of your way to kill all lions & coyotes to fuel your lack of judgement.And again I must show u how u hung yourself again in your comment quote on quote "Re-stocking these animals by the PGC was just wrong"…Again I say "Really?" So your telling me man could not co exist with the cougar so the hell with that wild animal "KILL IT…KILL THEM ALL" way to go guy's, & now that man is fixing his mistakes here u r crying about it.."WOW!!" just "WOW!!!" my god what is wrong with some of u ppl? Am I for predator over population thinning? u bet I am 100% I'll back u..but to kill a whole species off? come on…come on..Like I said I think it's best u & your friends stay out of the wood's or until u guy's can man up & see this world we live on was not put here for u & your bud's to kill what ever the hell u want just because u feel the wild is getting to close for comfort…remember what u said at the end of your comment…"I'll shoot any lion I find in the WOODS" <—-"WOODS" with that said,stay the hell out of the woods if lions bother u so much.

    • shootbrownelk

      William, If you don't think predators are dangerous come out to western Wyoming (If you can draw a tag!) and wander around the timber! Just this year 3 hunters had to shoot a grizzly that attacked them, they were a couple hundred yards from a major highway across the road from a popular Snake River scenic turnout.
      Right in Grand Teton park. 3 people were killed and partially eaten by Grizzlies. Cougar populations are also on the rise.
      I prefer Elk steaks to Wolf or Coyote any day. Right On Ron! And Zack…good thing there are no Wolves in Kansas or you'd change your tune.

  • Rich Kiper

    william, lions don't bother, I think I made that clear….neither do coyote … made that clear too…..You sound like both a worse tree hunger than Ron and a cyber bully because we don't believe like you. No I don't want coyotes in residential neighborhoods and lions the parks. Lets see how you feel after one of the nice animals kills a pet of yours or attacks one of your children. Live and Let live remember.

    • Ron

      @ Rich
      No idea why You called me a tree huger, but I guess you could call me that as I tend to spend a lot of time in the woods, I spend something around 300 days a year hunting ( my wife can a test to this ) all over the country. one of my favorite thing things to do is to run trailing dogs for coon, bear, coyote, Mt. lion. and now wolves," I do know a thing or two about predators" although in WI. we are not allowed to run dogs for wolves. I think that when they (DNR) don't meet the quota of wolf kills this year they will turn to the hound hunters, this turns out to be a very effective way to hunt, go ahead look it up, we have been doing it for Centuries and not just in the U.S.A . So stick to what I said in another post I wrote I do my part in hunting the trash so lots of people can hunt the game animals, me included. I know alot of hunters out there and most will only hunt so called game animals and BITCH about not seeing the game they are used to seeing, well alot of this is due to predators. So as far as coyotes and wolves go, until I see our game animals make a comeback, they have no place in the woods with me. You all can have-em.

  • William

    Rich.come on cyber bully? for real? that is what u have come with? were do I come off as a bully? someone like me,who in your own words "You sound like both a worse tree hunger then Ron and a cyber bully because we don't believe like you"….well i don't believe like u & Ron..so i guess u could be called a cyber bully ,right?? I'm no cyber bully,what I am tho is a alarmed Hunter…a concerned Hunter…& I stand up to ppl like u & Ron who at no cost will kill off species for your own personal gain & the rest of the world has to do with out because u cant co exist with nature.First of all,I don't know how to respond to the first sentence u wrote…"lions don't bother,neither do coyote" if they don't bother,why then would u say "I'll shoot any lion I find in the woods" & "My friends and I shoot every coyote we see"? I don't get it…+ u r to quick to read & understand what I wrote because u obviously didn't read what I wrote all that clear..I said quote on quote "If it is a nuisance animal that kills a human or harms a human by all means kill it" I told u I hunt & I believe in thinning wild animals..I just don't believe in killing off species or killing just to be killing for no reason,like u have stated in your comments.I would love to see the videos of these residential neighborhoods & parks u speak of that r just running wild & out of control..now don't get what i said twisted,I do believe that wild game do go into neighborhoods,parks & that they have bitten ppl,killed pets & so on…but I don't believe they r running out of control to the point u feel the need to go out & kill & get rid of lions & coyotes & any other wildlife that upsets your way of life.All my comments have been about how u can learn to live & co exist with nature & that there is a way to live with nature without killing of species…."U" on the other hand & Ron r hell bent on killing off species & wild game u deem dangerous & unfit for your way of life. "U" choose not to co exist with the wild….WoW!!! I do sound like a tree huger…but u know what? I'm a Hunter first…U can call me a tree huger all u want,but I'm steal willing to live & learn with nature…can u Sir,say the same?

    • Wolfman

      @William
      You would most likely love to see the wild pigs move into your hunting area as well, ask the southern boyz how they tear stuff up. I don't need hogs or yotes anymore than wolves where hunt. Black and white!

  • Hioni

    Look, if you kill off all the predators, the rodents will run wild, if you kill off all the Rodents, the Predators will take over. There needs to be a balance, one way or another. You can't just wipe out one or the other. I agree with William on that. It's common sense to keep up a balance. Hunting is a big part of my family, so I'm going to point out an actual event. In West Virginia a few years back or so, there was a problem with the deer not having enough food. Now before you say humans can feed them, feeders can only provide so much and are simply not enough. There was nothing to naturally thin out the groundhogs, squirrels, and other little critters so when there we had a bad season and there wasn't enough food to go around for them much less to support the deer as well. So the deer left. There were reports of deer being found dead from starvation. I'm not blaming the whole situation on the fact that we had no predators, to thin out the smaller critters, but it would have helped the situation I believe.
    Deer eat grass, nuts, berries and the like, so do groundhogs, opossum, squirrel, coon, and most other rodents and smaller creatures. If you have too many smaller animals, food for the deer becomes scarce. Coyotes do not hunt deer exclusively, they would take out a rabbit before they would a deer unless they were hungry enough to work in packs, though they usually only hunt in pairs and on occasion groups of three when they have a younger member with them. To see them taking down a deer is a relatively rare happening. The Coyotes usually kill off the smaller creatures, which gives the deer more food. Over population of deer can ruin a habitat just as any overpopulation of any creature, and they can become their own worst enemy in the process. Wolves eat the deer, which thins out the herd and keeps them from destroying themselves.
    The perfect scenario would balance out all of these, Rodents and small creatures, deer, coyotes, wolves and other predators.

    So there's your explanation Ron, I'm 100% positive they teach it in schools in the United States and have been for years.

    It's true, a little thinning out now and then is useful, but to wipe out an entire species is to destroy an ecosystem. It's exactly as Zack said, it's a circle of life. The Coyotes belong there as much as anything else does.

  • Gladius

    Y'know, all of you are spelling crap wrong left and write in here. Just thought I'd point that out as the person reading through this with popcorn.

  • Gladius

    ;D If you caught that, you're smarter than the average turkey.

  • Scotty

    Prey populations control predator populations, predators do not control prey population. This is not a matter or opinion this is an ecological fact.

    • dwpittelli

      Even leaving aside man as predator, if you wish, aren’t there examples of islands where the absence of predators leads to freakishly high populations of some animal(s), and that these populations are cut way down when a predator is introduced?

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